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Tony's Toy

Post by polly » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:56 pm

As in the introductions, here is my winter plaything.

When it arrived from Oldbobs I had to push it up the garden with my Wrangler.
compare to wrangler.jpg
It soon became apparent that the Fuel injection pump was kaput, but not before I got a blister on my hand from trying to prime it.
So after changing the primer I stripped the front clip off to get at the pump.
As I want to do a low hood conversion I thought I would try a couple of grills.
cj2a grill 1.jpg


CJ2A
Or
mb grill.jpg
MB (reproduction)

Im leaning toward the CJ2, but the headlamp housings seem expensive and hard to get hold of, so I may go the the MB

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Re: Tony's Toy

Post by cheiftain » Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:26 pm

It should be possible to fit standard 7" headlights and backplates. Land Rover, BMC, Morris Mini, or most Classic car lights of that size, even Commercial truck lights off old Leylands, Bedfords and the like. into the CL2A grill, I believe the MB can be fitted with citreon lamps at a push. :hello:
The journey isn't about departing in a well preserved body - but rather to skid in sideways - totally worn out - shouting HOLY SHIT WHAT A RIDE!!!!

Be More like a Dog, If you can't, Eat it, Play with it, Chase it, or Bark at it, Just Piss on it and walk away.

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Re: Tony's Toy

Post by kev » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:11 pm

Hi and welcome ,
which ever way u go buy a steel bonnet

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Re: Tony's Toy

Post by polly » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:02 pm

Cheers for the info.

I thought landrover headlamp bucket looked about the same size, so I might give it a go.

I will concentrate on chopping the scuttle and bulkhead first. Worry about the lights later.

I have a steel bonnet, but I was going to try and modify the fiberglass orginal first.

Infact I have a complete reproduction MB body, wings, windscreen, seats, even rifle rack.

These are all incase I make a pigs ear of the modifications.

I have an open mind with this one, Previous builds have been more structred than this.

I just got it started and moving today so making it look how I want is about to start.

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Re: Tony's Toy

Post by polly » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:31 am

After replacing the fuel priming pump I soon realised that the Fuel injection pump was knackered.

So after Christmas I went about getting it fixed.
front clip off.jpg
First I took the grill and nearside wing off.

Then took of the timing cover to align the timing marks.
timing marks.jpg
After lining up the timing marks I took the pump off.
fip off jeep.jpg
Its all pretty straightforward, as long as you align the timing marks on the timing gear and scribe a mark between the pump body and the mounting plate.

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Re: Tony's Toy

Post by armourerdoug » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:06 pm

Nice work Polly! :good: hope it sorts your fuel problem out ok!!
Nuns!! no sense of humour!

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Re: Tony's Toy

Post by polly » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:57 pm

Started today
First time.
fip back.jpg
Pump back from being overhauled, all shiny.
It was away just on 2 weeks.
I could of bought a 2nd hand LDV engine for what it cost, but after the blister on my hand it was a battle of wills.
timing cover ready to go on - Copy.jpg
Timing cover cleaned and ready to go on.
If the gasket sealer leaks Ill probably make a new paper gasket.
fip back on.jpg
Line up the timing marks and all back together.

just had to connect everything up, prime and fire it up.

when it started it fired first time and I was sure it was in neutral.
It jumped forward and pushed the Wrangler about 2 metres down the garden, before I got my foot inside and pressed the brake.

Quite impressive torque.

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Re: Tony's Toy

Post by cheiftain » Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:26 pm

Nice job :thumbsup:

As you have now found the Mindy will pull a house down if your not carefull and it will pull or push all most anything in its way. :hello:
The journey isn't about departing in a well preserved body - but rather to skid in sideways - totally worn out - shouting HOLY SHIT WHAT A RIDE!!!!

Be More like a Dog, If you can't, Eat it, Play with it, Chase it, or Bark at it, Just Piss on it and walk away.

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Re: Tony's Toy

Post by polly » Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:53 pm

I think a Wrangler weighs about 300 to 400 kgs more than the Brave.

It pushed it a good 2 metres, the Wrangler had its handbrake on and in gear.

I was hopping down the drive trying to get my left leg in to press the brake.

I could have sworn I checked it was in neutral.
on drive mb windscreen.jpg
Its moving under its own steam now.

Tried out a MB windscreen. Measuring it, its the same height as the Brave screen only the glass is closer to the top.

This may cause some problems when chopping the scuttle and bulkhead down.

Ill worry about that when I need to.

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Re: Tony's Toy

Post by cheiftain » Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:09 pm

Once the chop is done the MB screen will fit fine,
trying to use a 3b screen after the chop will cause you bad neck ache trying to look under the metal at the top of screen.
The journey isn't about departing in a well preserved body - but rather to skid in sideways - totally worn out - shouting HOLY SHIT WHAT A RIDE!!!!

Be More like a Dog, If you can't, Eat it, Play with it, Chase it, or Bark at it, Just Piss on it and walk away.

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Re: Tony's Toy

Post by polly » Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:23 pm

Cheers for that.
Its just when I was in it today with the MB screen dropped 100mm the header rail would be right in my eye line.

Im 6 foot so I was thinking of dropping the seat, they will be changed at some point anyway.

If not remove the spacers in the original seat.
drivers seat spacers and tool box.jpg
I dont want to hack out the toolbox. I would rather drive around with the windscreen down all the time.

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Re: Tony's Toy

Post by cheiftain » Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:42 pm

The modern seats as fitted to mindy are around 4 to 5" higher than the original seat design.
MB seats can be fitted with toolbox in place with a few mods to the seat, this will give the correct ride height for the view out of the screen.
The journey isn't about departing in a well preserved body - but rather to skid in sideways - totally worn out - shouting HOLY SHIT WHAT A RIDE!!!!

Be More like a Dog, If you can't, Eat it, Play with it, Chase it, or Bark at it, Just Piss on it and walk away.

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Re: Tony's Toy

Post by polly » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:07 pm

I thought something may not be right about the seats.
Ieuand was talking about mini seats, and I agree.

I think Something with less rise and a low back would be more appropriate. So cursory look on ebay I think MGB GT seats would fit the bill, or even mk1 or 2 Escort.

I think the ideal would be some low back 70s CJ7 seats.

The aftermarket replacements are much bulkier and wouldnt fit the short wheelbase, but originals would be spot on.

I have some repro MB frames, but Im not looking to build a pseudo military Jeep, and I think the seats may be a step to far in that direction.

Heres a pic of my first jeep after I replaced the race and rally 5 point WRC space shuttle type seats for the originals. (which came with it)
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Re: Tony's Toy

Post by CHRIS » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:44 pm

polly wrote:I think a Wrangler weighs about 300 to 400 kgs more than the Brave.

It pushed it a good 2 metres, the Wrangler had its handbrake on and in gear.

I was hopping down the drive trying to get my left leg in to press the brake.

I could have sworn I checked it was in neutral.
on drive mb windscreen.jpg
Its moving under its own steam now.

Tried out a MB windscreen. Measuring it, its the same height as the Brave screen only the glass is closer to the top.

This may cause some problems when chopping the scuttle and bulkhead down.

Ill worry about that when I need to.
Polly, Just out of interest, the screen you have in the pic, it looks like n MB screen with opening centre, but isn't split !
It also looks narrow from top of screen to metal base (could just be photo). I was just wondering if the one in the pic may have been cut down to fit a Mindy high hood, which would explain why it's in front of your eyes just like a mindy one !
Once cut down an MB screen should be fine, although as youve pointed out the Mindy seats are higher than MB seats anyway !
Chris

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Re: Tony's Toy

Post by Ieuan » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:59 am

As for the seats, I won these on Fleabay last night: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130641873068? ... _500wt_966

Taking a bit of a gamble and mot sure if £50 is to much, but we'll see what they look like in the jeep - but based on the pics I think they should look good. They are Triumph Herald seats.

Will let you when they turn up (brother is picking them up for me)

Cheers

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