Ieuan's new Marksman!

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Re: Ieuan's new Marksman!

Post by Ieuan » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:16 pm

Thanks Alan, great tip as well...... :thumbsup:

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Post by Ieuan » Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:20 pm

A few changes have taken place since picking her up......painted the back first to see what my hand painting was like with propper brushes and decent paint - No more Hammerite for me :thumbsup: !

The rear bumpers will eventually be replaced with Bummperette's, but I think they look ok for now....and not too many brush strokes :grin:

The rear lights look sort of military, so decided to see what painting them would look like....I'm quite pleased with the result and it will do until I get round to adding more authentic ones at some point in the future

Will add

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Re: Ieuan's new Marksman!

Post by CHRIS » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:52 pm

Ieuan, Can't see too many brush marks there, but if you don't want any at all, use a roller, a gloss sponge roller is what I used and if you put next to no weight on it you get an excellent finnish, so much so that when I did my jeep originally people thought I'd sprayed it !See you next Friday !

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Re: Ieuan's new Marksman!

Post by holte999 » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:53 pm

Looking good ;)

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Re: Ieuan's new Marksman!

Post by polly » Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:30 am

I like the moving the spare to get a jerry can holder in.
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Also I think this is a M170. its definitely not M38 A1

Cool project.

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Post by Ieuan » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:01 am

Aha....will google the M170 now :)

Moving the wheel was a must, will keep the original carriet to save at least some costd!

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Post by Ieuan » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:15 am

Found the dims of the :
Length, overall, maximum155"
Width, overall maximum60 7/8"

So will measure mine later

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Re: Ieuan's new Marksman!

Post by stephen » Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:52 pm

It might just be the camera angle, but there doesnt seem to be much clearance for the left tail light when the tailgate is swung open :scratch:

And with the weight of the spare tyre on the side furthest from the hinge, it might pay to sort out some type of support for the tailgate when it is shut to avoid stressing the hinge and lock assembly.
A decent nylon block bolted under the tailgate should do the trick.

I dont know how thick the steel is that your tyre bracket is bolted to- but it would pay to run a couple of strengthening square tubes to the otherside of the tailgate to spread the load.
heavy walled square tube running vertical and picking up the bolts for the tyre bracket should do the trick.

paint colour looks a good choice to me!
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Re: Ieuan's new Marksman!

Post by cheiftain » Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:11 pm

Stephen makes a few good points here,
Opening the tail gate will clash with the left hand lamp, even more so than on a standard set up as this could be and often was a problem, at full opening the spare wheel would hit the standard lamp lens, which were a lower profile than the truck type fitted now. but the truck ones do look much better in my opinion.

I notice the original steel and nylon support wedges that the tailgate pin rides in on the right hand lock side are missing, these did help support the weight of the closed gate, I'm not 100% sure but looks to me that the tailgate has been rebuilt at some time using square section tube, stronger than the old tubing and folded sheet.

the plate the spare mounts to is normaly around 4mm thick, welded to the thiner skin of the door, but it dosen't run the full width of the door so some attention will be needed to stop the spare pulling the bolts out of the thinner sheet where the mount is now. :beg:
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Re: Ieuan's new Marksman!

Post by cheiftain » Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:33 pm

polly wrote:I like the moving the spare to get a jerry can holder in.
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Also I think this is a M170. its definitely not M38 A1

Cool project.
M38A1 had small openings for the doors so did M38A2's,
But the M170 was a streched M38A2 made for use mainly as an Ambulance or Radio truck, the longer door on the passenger side made easier access to the rear when used by marines as a 6 man light transport vehicle. The longer wheelbase could carry strechers on the back. so the Spare Wheel was carried in a scoop beside the passenger seat and a jerry can often in front of this. Not that many were made as the M38A2 stayed in use for a very long time along side the newer Ford M151Mutt :preach:
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Re: Ieuan's new Marksman!

Post by Phil. » Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:52 pm

stephen wrote: I dont know how thick the steel is that your tyre bracket is bolted to- but it would pay to run a couple of strengthening square tubes to the other side of the tailgate to spread the load. heavy walled square tube running vertical and picking up the bolts for the tyre bracket should do the trick.
In doing a way with my rotted out tailgate I was faced with that problem. Re-enforced as shown I made a mod that allowed the tyre bracket to hang on the top rail, then bolted thru' to secure. Time will tell, but so far seems to be OK.

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Post by Ieuan » Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:11 pm

Thanks again all :thumbsup:

I don't actually plan to use the tailgate but it does foul on the left side tail light...I plan to either replace or weld it shut.

As for the spare, I've now added plate to the inside and outside, 4mm thick - so should be fine. Will also add a 'stop' below the tailgate to help support it until I replace or Weld.

Been cracking on with painting today well, had a nice Fathers day roast lamb then 4hrs on jeep :thumbsup:

It's very long, so the rear seat wil be right at the back....will then mount a metal box behind seats for tools etc.

Will add pics later/tomorrow

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Post by Ieuan » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:09 am

Some more pics......I ended up painting the 'dash' did a small piece first and thought it looked ok, this will keep me going until I decide to replace the dash over winter – I think it’s turned out better than I thought! Painted the side lights as well, not had time to purchase replacements and need to move the horn and air filter intake (as well as cutting a new hole for it) positions so I can place the lights in there…Not sure if to put the side lights and indicators in the grill, need to think about that first.

Pics were taken before I put the plate on the rear wheel carrier :thumbsup:

Jeep now needs a touch-up as it's hard to spot everyting in the garage (Aren't we supposed to have sunshine in June???). Hand painted most of it, did the bonet with a roller, sort of worked, but I touched it up with a brush....see what you think.

I'm hoping to get the old tyres off and painted this week, then hopefully picking up some tyres on Friday :thumbsup:
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Re: Ieuan's new Marksman!

Post by Phil. » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:53 am

Brush and roller...not a bad finish by the look of it. Good one :thumbsup:

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Re: Ieuan's new Marksman!

Post by The Jackal » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:19 am

The jeep is really coming on nicely.

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